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He didn't "appear" to give a Nazi salute. He GAVE a Nazi salute!

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EVEN THE ANTI-DEFAMATION LEAGUE. What is even the point of that organization anymore, if they can't/won't call a fascist salute a fascist salute?

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Came here to ask this. They're calling pro-Palestine supporters antisemites, but not Elon Musk? They completely caved after Musk said he'd sue them back in 2023. Cowards.

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The ADL isn't here to defend Jewish people, generally, against antisemitism, they're here to defend Israel, specifically, against any and all criticism. ADL = IDF.

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Jewish people who have the nerve to speak out against what Israel is doing to the Palestinians and are then attacked by openly antisemitic Christian Fascists: Who's side does the ADL take in that fight? Ha ha, we all know the answer to that one, don't we?

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Genuinely terrified for what the next 4 years will bring. The nonsense. The lies. The gaslighting. If it walks like a Nazi, talks like a Nazi, salutes like a Nazi, it's probably a Nazi.

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I like the way Qasim Rashid said it on Mastodon (or echoed it - he doesn't claim this is original)

"Don't know who said it first but it bears repeating—if you really don't think what Musk repeatedly did was a Nazi salute, please record yourself doing that exact thing and post it across all social media, and make sure your employer sees it.

Oh...is that awkward gesture too much now? Interesting."

https://mastodon.acm.org/@QasimRashid@mastodon.social/113867100065868080

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Not that it’s ever OK to knuckle under to these threats, but it’s gotten worse because the standard has slipped from “This lawsuit has no merit but we’ll cave because fighting it would bankrupt this organization” to “This lawsuit has no merit and we have the money to fight it but ehh—why spend it?”

And now Trump has added a new dimension—the filing of a frivolous lawsuit taking the place of soliciting a bribe.

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Luckily that doesn't stop them from trashing, for example, Joe Biden.

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The whole lawsuit thing is directly the fault of the judiciary. Courts never sanction the lawyers who file abusive and groundless lawsuits. Defendants don't even bother asking for Rule 11 sanctions because they know courts won't grant or uphold them.

The only way to stop this is massive sanctions. Sanctions big enough to discourage even the sleaziest of lawyers.

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30ish years ago was when I first heard of the idea of a "loser pays" civil lawsuit system, IE, if you file a suit that you lose, you pay the other party's legal fees. The idea was that such a system would discourage people from filing nonsense lawsuits or trying to silence critics with litigation.

Seemed like a good idea then and still does now.

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As the saying goes, "If it walks like a Nazi and quacks like a Nazi..."

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Honestly I hadn't considered the defamation suit angle until I saw Tenbarge's post and then it all clicked.

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Oh my. So frightful. By this hand gesture, we are sure that Trump and Musk are white supremacists that will bring back slavery and oppress Jews. It is good that keep up the claim because calling them racists worked so well this last election.

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One time I shot Frank in the stomach, but I was wearing a Musk mask, so he just spent the whole time crying and thanking me for the opportunity. Then he bought five subs to my Patreon.

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Right, if liberals are concerned/outraged by a thing, it can't possibly be a problem. This is also how we know climate change is a hoax and racism doesn't exist.

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When liberals are outraged that children are being torn from their parents in the ICE raids, that will either mean: 1) This thing isn't happening.or 2) It is happening, but that's a GOOD thing. We'll have to check in with the FrankBot 2000 later to find which one it is.

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Why is frank?

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